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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by wonderoftech</title>
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		<dc:creator>wonderoftech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question. Pinterest got in trouble recently for adding affiliate links to products so it would receive a commission if a product were purchased using a Pinterest link. This practice doesn&#039;t break any laws, except for the fact they didn&#039;t reveal that&#039;s what they were doing. Their defense was that people are allowed to change the URL of the link (though few people did). Now Pinterest reveals the affiliate link but still allows you to change it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question. Pinterest got in trouble recently for adding affiliate links to products so it would receive a commission if a product were purchased using a Pinterest link. This practice doesn&#8217;t break any laws, except for the fact they didn&#8217;t reveal that&#8217;s what they were doing. Their defense was that people are allowed to change the URL of the link (though few people did). Now Pinterest reveals the affiliate link but still allows you to change it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by TOGOMedia</title>
		<link>http://crowdshifter.com/2012/02/21/why-does-pinterest-let-you-change-urls-for-the-image-source/comment-page-1/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>TOGOMedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@susansilver I believe most users—as people in life—are honest and interested in using the network as it was intended. Unfortunately, it takes just a very small number of individuals to pervert the system.

 

The Pinterest community is already self-censoring with regard to porn and on a number of occasions I have observed images voluntarilly removed by a &quot;pinner&quot; at the request of another user.

 

While Pinterest does attempt to describe its terms regarding the posting of inappropriate (or illegal) materials, as we all know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

Pinterest&#039;s biggest hurdles, IMHO, are the myriad issues surrounding rights, digital rights and rights management. And, while they have already taken actions to address this issue in response to the cries of certain entities, it is my belief that this issue has not yet been put to rest. In the end, how Pinterest navigates issues concerning rights will determine whether or not it is able to survive.

 

Mark

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@susansilver I believe most users—as people in life—are honest and interested in using the network as it was intended. Unfortunately, it takes just a very small number of individuals to pervert the system.</p>
<p>The Pinterest community is already self-censoring with regard to porn and on a number of occasions I have observed images voluntarilly removed by a &#8220;pinner&#8221; at the request of another user.</p>
<p>While Pinterest does attempt to describe its terms regarding the posting of inappropriate (or illegal) materials, as we all know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.</p>
<p>Pinterest&#8217;s biggest hurdles, IMHO, are the myriad issues surrounding rights, digital rights and rights management. And, while they have already taken actions to address this issue in response to the cries of certain entities, it is my belief that this issue has not yet been put to rest. In the end, how Pinterest navigates issues concerning rights will determine whether or not it is able to survive.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>@TOGOMedia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by lori_lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori_lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to keep in mind that even without changing the link, the link does not always go back to the original source. For instance, a blogger might blog about a craft idea from someone else&#039;s blog, using the other blog&#039;s picture and even linking to them, but someone pins the second blog - the one who blogged about someone else&#039;s craft - and that&#039;s the site that gets the link.

 

That&#039;s why I think it&#039;s important for every business/blog/website to have a Pinterest page - to make sure you can pin your stuff and have it link back to the original source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to keep in mind that even without changing the link, the link does not always go back to the original source. For instance, a blogger might blog about a craft idea from someone else&#8217;s blog, using the other blog&#8217;s picture and even linking to them, but someone pins the second blog &#8211; the one who blogged about someone else&#8217;s craft &#8211; and that&#8217;s the site that gets the link.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I think it&#8217;s important for every business/blog/website to have a Pinterest page &#8211; to make sure you can pin your stuff and have it link back to the original source.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by lori_lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>lori_lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to keep in mind that even without changing the link, the link does not go back to the original source. I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve clicked through on a picture (crafts, for instance), only to find that the URL leads to a blog post where someone *features* the craft to bring it to others&#039; attention, and they are considered the &quot;source&quot; even though the craft/pictures originated at someone else&#039;s blog.

 

That&#039;s why I think it&#039;s essential for every business/blog/website to have a Pinterest page - so that they can pin their own stuff to make sure it&#039;s leading straight back to the source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to keep in mind that even without changing the link, the link does not go back to the original source. I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve clicked through on a picture (crafts, for instance), only to find that the URL leads to a blog post where someone *features* the craft to bring it to others&#8217; attention, and they are considered the &#8220;source&#8221; even though the craft/pictures originated at someone else&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I think it&#8217;s essential for every business/blog/website to have a Pinterest page &#8211; so that they can pin their own stuff to make sure it&#8217;s leading straight back to the source.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by susansilver</title>
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		<dc:creator>susansilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there is a way to track anyone abusing the system. I am sure that others have figured this out. Either people are super honest, or maybe people report it as abuse when it happens. Curious loophole. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there is a way to track anyone abusing the system. I am sure that others have figured this out. Either people are super honest, or maybe people report it as abuse when it happens. Curious loophole.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by TOGOMedia</title>
		<link>http://crowdshifter.com/2012/02/21/why-does-pinterest-let-you-change-urls-for-the-image-source/comment-page-1/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>TOGOMedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BradShorr @TOGOMedia I agree with you. The ability to edit URLs after pinning an image certainly creates the potential for abuse. It will be interesting to see if this becomes an issue. Thank you, again, for the thoughtful post!

 

Freedom and order in massively scaling functions are inevitably dynamic. As the number of Pinterest users and pins continues to grow, not only will the development team&#039;s original design assumptions be put under stress but their ability to measure any potential perversion of their vision as well.Probably a good idea to consider your points as this time—before Pinterest users do something that raising more than the eyebrows of &quot;rights&quot; trolls. ;-)

 

Mark

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BradShorr @TOGOMedia I agree with you. The ability to edit URLs after pinning an image certainly creates the potential for abuse. It will be interesting to see if this becomes an issue. Thank you, again, for the thoughtful post!</p>
<p>Freedom and order in massively scaling functions are inevitably dynamic. As the number of Pinterest users and pins continues to grow, not only will the development team&#8217;s original design assumptions be put under stress but their ability to measure any potential perversion of their vision as well.Probably a good idea to consider your points as this time—before Pinterest users do something that raising more than the eyebrows of &#8220;rights&#8221; trolls. <img src='http://crowdshifter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>TOGO Media</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by BradShorr</title>
		<link>http://crowdshifter.com/2012/02/21/why-does-pinterest-let-you-change-urls-for-the-image-source/comment-page-1/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>BradShorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TOGOMedia Hi Mark, Thank you for shedding some light on this. The examples you have sound perfectly acceptable and ones that enhance the Pinterest experience. The potential for abuse worries me a lot though, since marketers have discovered Pinterest in the last few months. Do you think this issue is on Pinterest&#039;s radar, and is there a fix?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TOGOMedia Hi Mark, Thank you for shedding some light on this. The examples you have sound perfectly acceptable and ones that enhance the Pinterest experience. The potential for abuse worries me a lot though, since marketers have discovered Pinterest in the last few months. Do you think this issue is on Pinterest&#8217;s radar, and is there a fix?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Does Pinterest Let You Change URLs for the Image Source? by TOGOMedia</title>
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		<dc:creator>TOGOMedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad:

 

While there is no doubt the &quot;feature&quot; you describe has the potential to negatively impact sharing and proper crediting of pinned content, I have actually found the ability to alter a URL after pinning a useful tool for effectively linking a correct URL to a resource that, due to one reason or another, is not &quot;pinnable.&quot;

 

Consider, for example, wanting to share an interesting resource with no image. The ability to alter the URL after pinning allows me to find and pin a relevant image (perhaps one I have available locally on my machine) and then point the URL to the original post or article.

 

Another example where the changing a URL is useful is when the images associated with a particular resource are not &quot;pinnable&quot; due to the way they are imbedded on a web page. I have found this issue arrises approximately 1 in every 10 pins I attempt to post.

 

Finally, on numerous occasions, I have found while an image may, in fact, be &quot;pinnable&quot; at low resolution, there exists a higher resolution, higher quality image available by clicking through the reference image. Pinterest generally does not look at this link. In this case, I am able to click through the image, pin the higher resolution image then, edit the pinned URL so that it points to the original post and not the URL of the image, alone.

 

Clearly, making the URL editable has opened Pinterest to potential abuse but completely eliminating this feature at this early point in the fledgling social network&#039;s development would, IMHO, be tantamount to throwing the baby out with the proverbial bathwater. I believe there may be other solutions should this particular feature become a problem over time.

 

In the end, the ability to quickly and easily &quot;click through&quot; a pin to a relevant resource, as you point out, is one of the key, killer features of Pinterest.

 

Mark

TOGO Media

 

 

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad:</p>
<p>While there is no doubt the &#8220;feature&#8221; you describe has the potential to negatively impact sharing and proper crediting of pinned content, I have actually found the ability to alter a URL after pinning a useful tool for effectively linking a correct URL to a resource that, due to one reason or another, is not &#8220;pinnable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Consider, for example, wanting to share an interesting resource with no image. The ability to alter the URL after pinning allows me to find and pin a relevant image (perhaps one I have available locally on my machine) and then point the URL to the original post or article.</p>
<p>Another example where the changing a URL is useful is when the images associated with a particular resource are not &#8220;pinnable&#8221; due to the way they are imbedded on a web page. I have found this issue arrises approximately 1 in every 10 pins I attempt to post.</p>
<p>Finally, on numerous occasions, I have found while an image may, in fact, be &#8220;pinnable&#8221; at low resolution, there exists a higher resolution, higher quality image available by clicking through the reference image. Pinterest generally does not look at this link. In this case, I am able to click through the image, pin the higher resolution image then, edit the pinned URL so that it points to the original post and not the URL of the image, alone.</p>
<p>Clearly, making the URL editable has opened Pinterest to potential abuse but completely eliminating this feature at this early point in the fledgling social network&#8217;s development would, IMHO, be tantamount to throwing the baby out with the proverbial bathwater. I believe there may be other solutions should this particular feature become a problem over time.</p>
<p>In the end, the ability to quickly and easily &#8220;click through&#8221; a pin to a relevant resource, as you point out, is one of the key, killer features of Pinterest.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
<p>TOGO Media</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Sell Your Services At A Much Higher Price by Claire Axelrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire Axelrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fantastic post, and so on point.   I especially liked the point about getting folks to that place where they understand it&#039;s costing them money not to fix the problem.  And, yes, sometimes they&#039;ll go with a lower priced consultant; usually, this results in an unfixed problem (IMHO)  I will definitely share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fantastic post, and so on point.   I especially liked the point about getting folks to that place where they understand it&#8217;s costing them money not to fix the problem.  And, yes, sometimes they&#8217;ll go with a lower priced consultant; usually, this results in an unfixed problem (IMHO)  I will definitely share!</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to Sell Your Services At A Much Higher Price by peaksmediainc</title>
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		<dc:creator>peaksmediainc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Tommy. Thanks for sharing. Very valuable information for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Tommy. Thanks for sharing. Very valuable information for me!</p>
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